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Post by Jacksonville Jaguars on May 16, 2010 23:52:54 GMT -5
65- St. Louis Rams- Chaney, Jamar - LB PHI B- 66- Kansas City Chiefs (from DET)- Jared Odrick- DL Miami A- 67- Arizona Cardinals (from TB)-Roberts, Andre C 68- Philadelphia Eagles (from WAS) - Sanders, Emmanuel - WR PIT C+ 69- Miami Dolphins (from KC) - Devin McCourty - DB NE B+ 70- Philadelphia Eagles (from SEA) -TJ Ward - DB CLE B- 71- Philadelphia Eagles (from CLE) - Jason Worilds - LB PIT C- 72- Carolina Panthers (from OAK) - Angerer, Pat - LB B 73- Buffalo Bills - Dillard, Phillip - LB NYG A 74- Jacksonville Jaguars - John Skelton, QB, ARI B- 75- Jacksonville Jaguars (from CHI) - Brian Price, DL - TB B 76- Oakland Raiders (from MIA) - Houston, LaMarr - DL OAK B 77- Philadelphia Eagles (from SF)-Dan LeFevour QB CHI D 78- Cleveland Browns (from DEN) - Dickerson, Dorin - TE HOU C- 79- New York Giants -John Conner NYJ RB D- 80- Philadelphia Eagles (from TEN) - Norwood, Eric - LB CAR B- 81- Carolina Panthers - Pitta, Denis - TE BAL B 82- Pittsburgh Steelers - Robinson, Patrick - DB NO B- 83- Atlanta Falcons - Williams, Dan - DT ARI B+ 84- Kansas City Chiefs (from HOU) - Easly, Marcus - WR BUF C 85- Minnesota Vikings (from CIN)-Dray, Jim ARI TE C 86- -Jacksonville Jaguars(from NE)-Asante, Larry CLE S B- 87- Green Bay Packers-Dixon, Anthony SFO RB B- 88- Minnesota Vikings (from PHI)-Riley, Perry WAS LB C- 89- Jacksonville Jaguars (from BAL)-Sapp, Ricky PHI DE B- 90- Miami Dolphins (from ARI)- Ford, Jacoby - WR OAK C 91- Arizona Cardinals (from DAL)-Edds, A.J. MIA LB C 92- Arizona Cardinals (from SD) - Mitchell, Carlton - WR CLE C- 93- Detriot Lions (from NYJ) - Wooten, Corey - DE CHI B- 94- Minnesota Vikings - Jones, Chad - DB NYG C 95- Indianapolis Colts - Troup, Torrell - DL BUF C 96- Kansas City Chiefs (from NO) - Murphy, Jerome - DB STL C
Best O value- Dennis Pitta (possibly Skelton) Best D Value- Phillip Dillard, hands down
Worst O Value-John Conner Worst D value- Chad Jones
*Note: Have not personally researched ALL of these guys, going off memory of depth and situation for some.
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Post by patsfan on May 17, 2010 0:07:32 GMT -5
65- St. Louis Rams- Chaney, Jamar - LB PHI B 66- Kansas City Chiefs (from DET)- Jared Odrick- DL Miami A- 67- Arizona Cardinals (from TB)-Roberts, Andre A- 68- Philadelphia Eagles (from WAS) - Sanders, Emmanuel - WR PIT A- 69- Miami Dolphins (from KC) - Devin McCourty - DB NE A- 70- Philadelphia Eagles (from SEA) -TJ Ward - DB CLE B+ 71- Philadelphia Eagles (from CLE) - Jason Worilds - LB PIT B 72- Carolina Panthers (from OAK) - Angerer, Pat - LB B 73- Buffalo Bills - Dillard, Phillip - LB NYG A+ 74- Jacksonville Jaguars - John Skelton, QB, ARI B- 75- Jacksonville Jaguars (from CHI) - Brian Price, DL - TB B- 76- Oakland Raiders (from MIA) - Houston, LaMarr - DL OAK B+ 77- Philadelphia Eagles (from SF)-Dan LeFevour QB CHI D+ 78- Cleveland Browns (from DEN) - Dickerson, Dorin - TE HOU C- 79- New York Giants -John Conner NYJ RB D- 80- Philadelphia Eagles (from TEN) - Norwood, Eric - LB CAR B 81- Carolina Panthers - Pitta, Denis - TE BAL A- 82- Pittsburgh Steelers - Robinson, Patrick - DB NO A 83- Atlanta Falcons - Williams, Dan - DT ARI B+ 84- Kansas City Chiefs (from HOU) - Easly, Marcus - WR BUF C- 85- Minnesota Vikings (from CIN)-Dray, Jim ARI TE C- 86- -Jacksonville Jaguars(from NE)-Asante, Larry CLE S B- 87- Green Bay Packers-Dixon, Anthony SFO RB A 88- Minnesota Vikings (from PHI)-Riley, Perry WAS LB C 89- Jacksonville Jaguars (from BAL)-Sapp, Ricky PHI DE B+ 90- Miami Dolphins (from ARI)- Ford, Jacoby - WR OAK B- 91- Arizona Cardinals (from DAL)-Edds, A.J. MIA LB C 92- Arizona Cardinals (from SD) - Mitchell, Carlton - WR CLE A 93- Detriot Lions (from NYJ) - Wooten, Corey - DE CHI B- 94- Minnesota Vikings - Jones, Chad - DB NYG C 95- Indianapolis Colts - Troup, Torrell - DL BUF C 96- Kansas City Chiefs (from NO) - Murphy, Jerome - DB STL C
Best O value- Anthony Dixon Best D Value- Phillip Dillard, hands down (agreed)
Worst O Value-John Conner Worst D value- torrel troop
*Note: Have not personally researched ALL of these guys, going off memory of depth and situation for some.
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Post by murphderrty on May 17, 2010 0:15:14 GMT -5
I score Wootton higher. He was a steal for the bears in the real draft and should start over mark anderson and isael indonije. Good to see you gave yourself such good marks too BTW
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Post by patsfan on May 17, 2010 0:17:13 GMT -5
ya as i said, i didnt do research on any of these guys, just goin by who i remember. im sure wooton is a good player. u should post ur grades too if u kno so much lol
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Post by murphderrty on May 17, 2010 0:34:22 GMT -5
Just a Bears fan that's all. Looking at the DL last year, if someone picked me or you in the rookie draft I would have scored it at least a B+.
My grades would look a lot like yours. Some people definitely reached too high, but they probably didn't have a pick to begin with and didn't want their guy taken.
Some picks were just plain bad (the fullback one gets me) and so does Lefevour.
I think Skelton is someone to watch too. I am waiting for his contract to run out so I can sign him long term.
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Post by Jacksonville Jaguars on May 17, 2010 0:54:17 GMT -5
As I said in the note, haven't researched them all, Wooten being one of those. Already said I wasn't sure if I could do it unbiased, and that I really thought about all my picks. Skelton is intriguing in that Ari's QB situation is tenuous at best with Leinart and DA, sleeper for me in any format.
Only regret is not being able to get BOTH Dillard and Asante, being a Nebraska fan, but does not mean I won't take a shot at getting him.
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Post by Commish on May 17, 2010 6:47:44 GMT -5
65- St. Louis Rams- Chaney, Jamar - LB PHI B- 66- Kansas City Chiefs (from DET)- Jared Odrick- DL Miami A- 67- Arizona Cardinals (from TB)-Roberts, Andre B 68- Philadelphia Eagles (from WAS) - Sanders, Emmanuel - WR PIT B+ 69- Miami Dolphins (from KC) - Devin McCourty - DB NE A- 70- Philadelphia Eagles (from SEA) -TJ Ward - DB CLE B+ 71- Philadelphia Eagles (from CLE) - Jason Worilds - LB PIT B 72- Carolina Panthers (from OAK) - Angerer, Pat - LB B+ 73- Buffalo Bills - Dillard, Phillip - LB NYG A 74- Jacksonville Jaguars - John Skelton, QB, ARI B- 75- Jacksonville Jaguars (from CHI) - Brian Price, DL - TB B 76- Oakland Raiders (from MIA) - Houston, LaMarr - DL OAK B 77- Philadelphia Eagles (from SF)-Dan LeFevour QB CHI C+ 78- Cleveland Browns (from DEN) - Dickerson, Dorin - TE HOU C- 79- New York Giants -John Conner NYJ RB D 80- Philadelphia Eagles (from TEN) - Norwood, Eric - LB CAR B 81- Carolina Panthers - Pitta, Denis - TE BAL A- 82- Pittsburgh Steelers - Robinson, Patrick - DB NO A- 83- Atlanta Falcons - Williams, Dan - DT ARI B 84- Kansas City Chiefs (from HOU) - Easly, Marcus - WR BUF C 85- Minnesota Vikings (from CIN)-Dray, Jim ARI TE C- 86- -Jacksonville Jaguars(from NE)-Asante, Larry CLE S B- 87- Green Bay Packers-Dixon, Anthony SFO RB B+ 88- Minnesota Vikings (from PHI)-Riley, Perry WAS LB C- 89- Jacksonville Jaguars (from BAL)-Sapp, Ricky PHI DE B+ 90- Miami Dolphins (from ARI)- Ford, Jacoby - WR OAK B 91- Arizona Cardinals (from DAL)-Edds, A.J. MIA LB C 92- Arizona Cardinals (from SD) - Mitchell, Carlton - WR CLE B 93- Detriot Lions (from NYJ) - Wooten, Corey - DE CHI B 94- Minnesota Vikings - Jones, Chad - DB NYG C 95- Indianapolis Colts - Troup, Torrell - DL BUF D 96- Kansas City Chiefs (from NO) - Murphy, Jerome - DB STL C
Best O value- Denis Pitta Best D Value- Phillip Dillard Worst O Value-John Conner Worst D value- Perry Riley
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Post by sgeason32 on May 17, 2010 8:47:32 GMT -5
65- St. Louis Rams- Chaney, Jamar - LB PHI C+ 66- Kansas City Chiefs (from DET)- Jared Odrick- DL Miami B+ 67- Arizona Cardinals (from TB)-Roberts, Andre B+ 68- Philadelphia Eagles (from WAS) - Sanders, Emmanuel - WR PIT B 69- Miami Dolphins (from KC) - Devin McCourty - DB NE B 70- Philadelphia Eagles (from SEA) -TJ Ward - DB CLE B- 71- Philadelphia Eagles (from CLE) - Jason Worilds - LB PIT B 72- Carolina Panthers (from OAK) - Angerer, Pat - LB 73- Buffalo Bills - Dillard, Phillip - LB NYG A 74- Jacksonville Jaguars - John Skelton, QB, ARI B+ 75- Jacksonville Jaguars (from CHI) - Brian Price, DL - TB B+ 76- Oakland Raiders (from MIA) - Houston, LaMarr - DL OAK B+ 77- Philadelphia Eagles (from SF)-Dan LeFevour QB CHI C 78- Cleveland Browns (from DEN) - Dickerson, Dorin - TE HOU C 79- New York Giants -John Conner NYJ RB F 80- Philadelphia Eagles (from TEN) - Norwood, Eric - LB CAR B+ 81- Carolina Panthers - Pitta, Denis - TE BAL 82- Pittsburgh Steelers - Robinson, Patrick - DB NO B+ 83- Atlanta Falcons - Williams, Dan - DT ARI B+ 84- Kansas City Chiefs (from HOU) - Easly, Marcus - WR BUF B 85- Minnesota Vikings (from CIN)-Dray, Jim ARI TE C- 86- -Jacksonville Jaguars(from NE)-Asante, Larry CLE S B 87- Green Bay Packers-Dixon, Anthony SFO RB A 88- Minnesota Vikings (from PHI)-Riley, Perry WAS LB B 89- Jacksonville Jaguars (from BAL)-Sapp, Ricky PHI DE A- 90- Miami Dolphins (from ARI)- Ford, Jacoby - WR OAK A- 91- Arizona Cardinals (from DAL)-Edds, A.J. MIA LB C+ 92- Arizona Cardinals (from SD) - Mitchell, Carlton - WR CLE A 93- Detriot Lions (from NYJ) - Wooten, Corey - DE CHI A 94- Minnesota Vikings - Jones, Chad - DB NYG B+ 95- Indianapolis Colts - Troup, Torrell - DL BUF D 96- Kansas City Chiefs (from NO) - Murphy, Jerome - DB STL B best value O John Skelton best d value Phillip Dillard and Corey Wooten worst O value John Conner worst d value Torrell Troup
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Post by Denver Broncos on May 17, 2010 12:50:39 GMT -5
Just wondering how you guys can say torrel troup is the worst d pick. He was the next to last guy taken, so what real value would he have anyway. I would argue that anyone taken there is going to make little to no difference in this league. Houston, you gave Perry Riley a worst grade than troup and he was drafted 7 spots earlier. Wouldn't that constitute a worse pick??
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Post by patsfan on May 17, 2010 16:35:03 GMT -5
look buddy, i dont kno every single draft pick. as i said, i didnt personally research everyone. dont mind me
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Post by bigmannk on May 17, 2010 16:37:50 GMT -5
Houston - I only got an A for my pick? I didnt get an A +? do your research man...
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Post by patsfan on May 17, 2010 16:46:13 GMT -5
yeah honestly some people need to chill out. all this stuff is just bullSh%#. im sorry i didnt put 2 hours into researching guys like torrel troup and perry riley. we're just messin around, no need to take ur period out on me
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Post by bigmannk on May 17, 2010 17:36:07 GMT -5
hes just mad he got maxi without wings...
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Post by patsfan on May 17, 2010 17:39:05 GMT -5
is that the one you like best? lol
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Post by bigmannk on May 17, 2010 17:45:51 GMT -5
oooh houston im hurt... when i sent you to the store to buy them for me last time you know you didnt buy pads... i only use tampons... you'll learn eventually
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Post by dabest3 on May 17, 2010 17:55:47 GMT -5
65- St. Louis Rams- Chaney, Jamar - LB PHI B- 66- Kansas City Chiefs (from DET)- Jared Odrick- DL Miami 67- Arizona Cardinals (from TB)-Roberts, Andre C 68- Philadelphia Eagles (from WAS) - Sanders, Emmanuel - WR PIT C+ 69- Miami Dolphins (from KC) - Devin McCourty - DB NE B 70- Philadelphia Eagles (from SEA) -TJ Ward - DB CLE C+ 71- Philadelphia Eagles (from CLE) - Jason Worilds - LB PIT B 72- Carolina Panthers (from OAK) - Angerer, Pat - LB C 73- Buffalo Bills - Dillard, Phillip - LB NYG B+ 74- Jacksonville Jaguars - John Skelton, QB, ARI B 75- Jacksonville Jaguars (from CHI) - Brian Price, DL - TB B+ 76- Oakland Raiders (from MIA) - Houston, LaMarr - DL OAK B+ 77- Philadelphia Eagles (from SF)-Dan LeFevour QB CHI C- 78- Cleveland Browns (from DEN) - Dickerson, Dorin - TE HOU C- 79- New York Giants -John Conner NYJ RB F- ha 80- Philadelphia Eagles (from TEN) - Norwood, Eric - LB CAR B+ 81- Carolina Panthers - Pitta, Denis - TE BAL C 82- Pittsburgh Steelers - Robinson, Patrick - DB NO B 83- Atlanta Falcons - Williams, Dan - DT ARI B 84- Kansas City Chiefs (from HOU) - Easly, Marcus - WR BUF 85- Minnesota Vikings (from CIN)-Dray, Jim ARI TE C- 86- -Jacksonville Jaguars(from NE)-Asante, Larry CLE S B 87- Green Bay Packers-Dixon, Anthony SFO RB B 88- Minnesota Vikings (from PHI)-Riley, Perry WAS LB B 89- Jacksonville Jaguars (from BAL)-Sapp, Ricky PHI DE A- 90- Miami Dolphins (from ARI)- Ford, Jacoby - WR OAK B+ 91- Arizona Cardinals (from DAL)-Edds, A.J. MIA LB C+ 92- Arizona Cardinals (from SD) - Mitchell, Carlton - WR CLE A 93- Detriot Lions (from NYJ) - Wooten, Corey - DE CHI A 94- Minnesota Vikings - Jones, Chad - DB NYG B+ 95- Indianapolis Colts - Troup, Torrell - DL BUF D 96- Kansas City Chiefs (from NO) - Murphy, Jerome - DB STL
BEST VALUE: O- Carlton Mitchell D- Ricky Sapp WORST VALUE: O- John connor D- TJ Ward
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Post by bigmannk on May 17, 2010 18:00:00 GMT -5
now that wasnt very classy houston...
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Post by patsfan on May 17, 2010 18:02:18 GMT -5
maybe not, but it had to be said. we all kno how fascinated u are with tampons
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Post by dabest3 on May 17, 2010 18:05:57 GMT -5
funny how someone always ends up adding something gay to a conversation. haha
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Post by eagles86 on May 17, 2010 18:58:19 GMT -5
I think every pick deserves an A...it's the third round....
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Post by Denver Broncos on May 18, 2010 8:13:28 GMT -5
Houston, I wasn't bashing you on the grades you gave or the research you did or didn't put in. Obviously its all bullSh%#, I was just making a point that you gave a lower grade to a guy taken earlier in the draft and still put troup down as the worst pick. I think you may be the way getting a little excited about it.
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Post by Denver Broncos on May 18, 2010 8:13:54 GMT -5
I'm with you eagles
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