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Post by dolphins on May 11, 2011 17:06:20 GMT -5
hey this is just my opion dont get mad if you think i graded you to low
1.01 St. Louis Rams Ingram, Mark NOS RB (R) 7:53:26 a.m. B+ 1.02 Houston Texans Green, A.J. CIN WR (R) 9:53:35 a.m. A 1.03 Houston Texans Jones, Julio ATL WR (R) 9:54:05 a.m. A 1.04 Detroit Lions Leshoure, Mikel DET RB (R) 5:05:23 p.m. C+ 1.05 St. Louis Rams Smith, Torrey BAL WR (R) 5:18:08 p.m. B- 1.06 Houston Texans Newton, Cam CAR QB (R) 6:28:21 p.m. A+ 1.07 St. Louis Rams Kaepernick, Colin SFO QB (R) 7:54:03 p.m. B 1.08 Miami Dolphins Locker, Jake TEN QB (R) 8:01:29 p.m. 1.09 Carolina Panthers Thomas, Daniel MIA RB (R) 8:47:44 p.m. B+ 1.10 Atlanta Falcons Ponder, Christian MIN QB (R) 9:16:22 p.m. B- 1.11 Green Bay Packers Miller, Von DEN LB (R) 9:17:53 p.m. A- 1.12 Indianapolis Colts Williams, Ryan ARI RB (R) 8:05:19 a.m. A+ 1.13 New Orleans Saints Gabbert, Blaine JAC QB (R) 1:03:05 p.m. A 1.14 Pittsburgh Steelers Dalton, Andy CIN QB (R) 9:04:57 p.m. A- 1.15 San Diego Chargers Peterson, Patrick ARI CB (R) 11:35:21 p.m. A- 1.16 Minnesota Vikings Baldwin, Jon KCC WR (R) 6:35:38 a.m. A 1.17 Green Bay Packers Fairley, Nick DET DT (R) 8:29:41 a.m. B- 1.18 Kansas City Chiefs Helu, Roy WAS RB (R) 11:49:35 a.m.(sry bro)D+ 1.19 Miami Dolphins Little, Greg CLE WR (R) 1:41:06 p.m. 1.20 Tampa Bay Buccaneers Dareus, Marcell BUF DT (R) 1:41:07 p.m.B- 1.21 Denver Broncos Quinn, Robert STL DE (R) 12:28:46 a.m. B 1.22 San Diego Chargers Murray, DeMarco DAL RB (R) 7:33:40 a.m. C 1.23 Pittsburgh Steelers Green, Alex GBP RB (R) 6:08:00 p.m. D 1.24 St. Louis Rams Foster, Mason TBB LB (R) 5:58:49 p.m. C- 1.25 Detroit Lions Vereen, Shane NEP RB (R) 4:35:06 p.m. C- 1.26 Green Bay Packers Watt, J.J. HOU DE (R) 4:50:57 p.m. B- 1.27 Arizona Cardinals Hankerson, Leonard WAS WR (R) 6:30:45 p.m B+ 1.28 Green Bay Packers Bowers, Da'Quan TBB DE (R) 7:29:47 p.m. B 1.29 Baltimore Ravens Rudolph, Kyle MIN TE (R) 10:02:01 p.m. C+ 1.30 Carolina Panthers Salas, Greg STL WR (R) 10:02:02 p.m. C- 1.31 Cleveland Browns Hunter, Kendall SFO RB (R) 10:02:03 p.m. B- 1.32 Washington Redskins Smith, Aldon SFO LB (R) A-
this is a value grading not player
best value O= Baldwin, D= aldon smith
worst value O= Alex Green,D=Foster
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Post by Commish on May 11, 2011 17:59:39 GMT -5
interesting torrey smith got a better grade then leshoure when they were basically the same spot, i though leshoure was hands down more value
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Post by dolphins on May 11, 2011 19:19:48 GMT -5
he would but DET got best last year and imo they got leshour to spell him instead of vise versa. i think flacco is gona show off his big arm with smith this year but its all opion
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Post by patsfan on May 11, 2011 19:28:51 GMT -5
ur a maryland guy so il take that with a grain of salt...i like how u ranked my picks ...here goes 1.01 St. Louis Rams Ingram, Mark NOS RB (R) 7:53:26 a.m. A- (stud RB's hard to find) 1.02 Houston Texans Green, A.J. CIN WR (R) 9:53:35 a.m. A 1.03 Houston Texans Jones, Julio ATL WR (R) 9:54:05 a.m. A 1.04 Detroit Lions Leshoure, Mikel DET RB (R) 5:05:23 p.m. B- 1.05 St. Louis Rams Smith, Torrey BAL WR (R) 5:18:08 p.m. B- (little better option here) 1.06 Houston Texans Newton, Cam CAR QB (R) 6:28:21 p.m. A+ 1.07 St. Louis Rams Kaepernick, Colin SFO QB (R) 7:54:03 p.m. B- (woulda waited) 1.08 Miami Dolphins Locker, Jake TEN QB (R) 8:01:29 p.m. B 1.09 Carolina Panthers Thomas, Daniel MIA RB (R) 8:47:44 p.m. A- 1.10 Atlanta Falcons Ponder, Christian MIN QB (R) 9:16:22 p.m. B- 1.11 Green Bay Packers Miller, Von DEN LB (R) 9:17:53 p.m. B 1.12 Indianapolis Colts Williams, Ryan ARI RB (R) 8:05:19 a.m. B+ 1.13 New Orleans Saints Gabbert, Blaine JAC QB (R) 1:03:05 p.m. A 1.14 Pittsburgh Steelers Dalton, Andy CIN QB (R) 9:04:57 p.m. B+ 1.15 San Diego Chargers Peterson, Patrick ARI CB (R) 11:35:21 p.m. B- 1.16 Minnesota Vikings Baldwin, Jon KCC WR (R) 6:35:38 a.m. A 1.17 Green Bay Packers Fairley, Nick DET DT (R) 8:29:41 a.m. B- 1.18 Kansas City Chiefs Helu, Roy WAS RB (R) 11:49:35 a.m. A- 1.19 Miami Dolphins Little, Greg CLE WR (R) 1:41:06 p.m. A++ (amazing value) 1.20 Tampa Bay Buccaneers Dareus, Marcell BUF DT (R) 1:41:07 p.m. C 1.21 Denver Broncos Quinn, Robert STL DE (R) 12:28:46 a.m. B+ 1.22 San Diego Chargers Murray, DeMarco DAL RB (R) 7:33:40 a.m. B 1.23 Pittsburgh Steelers Green, Alex GBP RB (R) 6:08:00 p.m. B- 1.24 St. Louis Rams Foster, Mason TBB LB (R) 5:58:49 p.m. B 1.25 Detroit Lions Vereen, Shane NEP RB (R) 4:35:06 p.m. A 1.26 Green Bay Packers Watt, J.J. HOU DE (R) 4:50:57 p.m. C 1.27 Arizona Cardinals Hankerson, Leonard WAS WR (R) 6:30:45 p.m A 1.28 Green Bay Packers Bowers, Da'Quan TBB DE (R) 7:29:47 p.m. B 1.29 Baltimore Ravens Rudolph, Kyle MIN TE (R) 10:02:01 p.m. A 1.30 Carolina Panthers Salas, Greg STL WR (R) 10:02:02 p.m. C+ 1.31 Cleveland Browns Hunter, Kendall SFO RB (R) 10:02:03 p.m. B 1.32 Washington Redskins Smith, Aldon SFO LB (R) B+
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2011 20:33:42 GMT -5
No need to apologize Miami. 'D' is a fair punishing grade for disregarding the best player available (Greg Little) but with Fitzgerald and Nicks on the team and Scott being my best RB I had no other choice than addressing positional need. I have seen Helu go as soon as 1.05 and 1.07 (way too high) in other rookie drafts. I will be more concerned if the grade is still the same next February.
All the best /KC
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Post by ktownsteelers on May 11, 2011 20:58:50 GMT -5
im hoping that grade stays kc.if it changes im in a bad spot.
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Post by mrarmageddon on May 12, 2011 2:02:58 GMT -5
Got a B and a B- for autodrafting... not too shabby.
The one I really can't agree with at all is Cam Newton. Personally, I just don't see him being a a good pro.
Watch that and tell me this guy, who played 14 DI games is somehow going to be a franchise QB. He can't even call a single play from his playbook. Houston didn't need a QB either and I don't think he was the BPA. Trade the pick or get something that isn't such a gamble. You can't start both QBs and are going to trade one if they are both successful. If he sucks then what? Could have had Daniel Thomas or Ryan Williams. Someone that would at least hold value for a longer duration. Nobody's stock is going to drop faster than Newton's if he struggles.
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Post by patsfan on May 12, 2011 7:31:56 GMT -5
i am loaded at rb/wr and can only start 3....why not add a high-upside complement to flacco........its a 32 team league so it was by far the BPA at that spot IMO
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Post by St. Louis Rams on May 12, 2011 8:21:51 GMT -5
because he's not a high upside ? And will be a bust i'm kidding.......well half kidding
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Post by Commish on May 12, 2011 18:59:58 GMT -5
i have to agree with CLE and STL on this one, i think newton won't do so well in the pros.
I like to compare him to JaMarcus Russel coming out of college. He has the great size, great speed, strong arm...questionable brain. Russel was the biggest flop since Ryan Leaf. That fact scares me away from Newton along with all the other only 14 D1 games and such.
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Post by patsfan on May 12, 2011 21:14:15 GMT -5
russel didnt have great speed....and as far as intangibles....russell makes cam look like peyton manning. i kno its a big risk, u dont gotta tell me that....the upside is just well worth it IMO
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Post by St. Louis Rams on May 13, 2011 5:03:15 GMT -5
only times will tell
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Post by Washington Redskins on May 13, 2011 9:08:34 GMT -5
1.01 St. Louis Rams Ingram, Mark NOS RB (R) 7:53:26 a.m. B 1.02 Houston Texans Green, A.J. CIN WR (R) 9:53:35 a.m. A- 1.03 Houston Texans Jones, Julio ATL WR (R) 9:54:05 a.m. A- 1.04 Detroit Lions Leshoure, Mikel DET RB (R) 5:05:23 p.m. B- 1.05 St. Louis Rams Smith, Torrey BAL WR (R) 5:18:08 p.m. C 1.06 Houston Texans Newton, Cam CAR QB (R) 6:28:21 p.m. D-(sorry HOU i'm a Newton hater) 1.07 St. Louis Rams Kaepernick, Colin SFO QB (R) 7:54:03 p.m. C 1.08 Miami Dolphins Locker, Jake TEN QB (R) 8:01:29 p.m. B 1.09 Carolina Panthers Thomas, Daniel MIA RB (R) 8:47:44 p.m. B 1.10 Atlanta Falcons Ponder, Christian MIN QB (R) 9:16:22 p.m. B+ 1.11 Green Bay Packers Miller, Von DEN LB (R) 9:17:53 p.m. A 1.12 Indianapolis Colts Williams, Ryan ARI RB (R) 8:05:19 a.m. B 1.13 New Orleans Saints Gabbert, Blaine JAC QB (R) 1:03:05 p.m. A- 1.14 Pittsburgh Steelers Dalton, Andy CIN QB (R) 9:04:57 p.m. A- 1.15 San Diego Chargers Peterson, Patrick ARI CB (R) 11:35:21 p.m. A- 1.16 Minnesota Vikings Baldwin, Jon KCC WR (R) 6:35:38 a.m. A 1.17 Green Bay Packers Fairley, Nick DET DT (R) 8:29:41 a.m. B- 1.18 Kansas City Chiefs Helu, Roy WAS RB (R) 11:49:35 a.m. B- 1.19 Miami Dolphins Little, Greg CLE WR (R) 1:41:06 p.m. A+ 1.20 Tampa Bay Buccaneers Dareus, Marcell BUF DT (R) 1:41:07 p.m.B- 1.21 Denver Broncos Quinn, Robert STL DE (R) 12:28:46 a.m. B 1.22 San Diego Chargers Murray, DeMarco DAL RB (R) 7:33:40 a.m. B- 1.23 Pittsburgh Steelers Green, Alex GBP RB (R) 6:08:00 p.m. D 1.24 St. Louis Rams Foster, Mason TBB LB (R) 5:58:49 p.m. C- 1.25 Detroit Lions Vereen, Shane NEP RB (R) 4:35:06 p.m. C 1.26 Green Bay Packers Watt, J.J. HOU DE (R) 4:50:57 p.m. B 1.27 Arizona Cardinals Hankerson, Leonard WAS WR (R) 6:30:45 p.m A 1.28 Green Bay Packers Bowers, Da'Quan TBB DE (R) 7:29:47 p.m. B+ 1.29 Baltimore Ravens Rudolph, Kyle MIN TE (R) 10:02:01 p.m. B- 1.30 Carolina Panthers Salas, Greg STL WR (R) 10:02:02 p.m. C 1.31 Cleveland Browns Hunter, Kendall SFO RB (R) 10:02:03 p.m. C+ 1.32 Washington Redskins Smith, Aldon SFO LB (R) A-
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Post by dolphins on May 14, 2011 11:45:00 GMT -5
No need to apologize Miami. 'D' is a fair punishing grade for disregarding the best player available (Greg Little) but with Fitzgerald and Nicks on the team and Scott being my best RB I had no other choice than addressing positional need. I have seen Helu go as soon as 1.05 and 1.07 (way too high) in other rookie drafts. I will be more concerned if the grade is still the same next February. All the best /KC yeah thanks for understanding like i said its bout player value but if you go by need mixed in with value imo alot of these grades could have been differnt
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Post by Washington Redskins on May 18, 2011 21:47:04 GMT -5
Hey Miami and Houston can you two put together a 2nd and 3rd round draft grades also i'm using our 3 grades to do a full draft team grade
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Post by patsfan on Sept 20, 2011 16:30:32 GMT -5
Got a B and a B- for autodrafting... not too shabby. The one I really can't agree with at all is Cam Newton. Personally, I just don't see him being a a good pro. Watch that and tell me this guy, who played 14 DI games is somehow going to be a franchise QB. He can't even call a single play from his playbook. Houston didn't need a QB either and I don't think he was the BPA. Trade the pick or get something that isn't such a gamble. You can't start both QBs and are going to trade one if they are both successful. If he sucks then what? Could have had Daniel Thomas or Ryan Williams. Someone that would at least hold value for a longer duration. Nobody's stock is going to drop faster than Newton's if he struggles. because he's not a high upside ? And will be a bust i'm kidding.......well half kidding i have to agree with CLE and STL on this one, i think newton won't do so well in the pros. I like to compare him to JaMarcus Russel coming out of college. He has the great size, great speed, strong arm...questionable brain. Russel was the biggest flop since Ryan Leaf. That fact scares me away from Newton along with all the other only 14 D1 games and such. Hate to be that guy but i had to bump this back up only 2 games in but im not sure theres any other qb in fantasy id rather have
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